But the Bible tells us to care about both. 5And one of the elders said to me, Weep no more; behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has conquered, so that he can open the scroll and its seven seals. 6And between the throne and the four living creatures and among the elders I saw a Lamb standing, as though it had been slain, with seven horns and with seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth. Do you think the bottomless pit actually has a padlock? I do not judge him. Hes completely out of Calvary Chapel and is seemingly content as a regular guy although he seems to have realigned his doctrine to something more unorthodox and writes about it often. Thank you. Genuine Christianity doesnt waste its time sin sniffing or telling others what to do or how to live. God knew from the beginning who would choose him or not choose him and based on what mans choice would be God chose man so predestination is mentioned but its according to his foreknowledge that he chose us as it clearly states in 1Peter 1:2. That is one more reason mega-anything can be so mega-bad for all believers who now have to explain this to the mockers and critics. Of courseleave it to the Pharisees to fight amongst, not for, themselves. Lol. There is just NO WAY a board would put an organization this big at risk unless they were guarding something more. Personally I saw through thi scumbag years ago ..he used his popularity to con people and he was smart enough to do itHe never took the word seriously to his heart. It's unclear how seriously they took the claim of the teenager whom New Times is not naming in accordance with our policy on reporting on victims of sexual abuse who said Coy had forced her to have sex even when she was only 4 years old. This has grown way beyond the BC travesty, its become a volley of hate. Amid that legal battle, the movement essentially split in half shortly after Smith's death. This is a muddled moshpit, and I dont think Almighty God is into screamo. Itll continue, itll just be a lot smaller taking in a lot less money than pre-moral failure, 807 you never proved anything that you claimed which is rumoured to be false. Through that rehabilitation, I became a better man. Broward State Attorney Mike Satz says he was never notified about the investigation. Look at bob through the eyes of Jesusthen post your comments on how you see him.. Im glad Pastor Chuck was spared from this. Tell me why you need to be the first w news rather than respecting the church body and unity of faith and respecting that as a congregation, we need to be together to receive our family update. He attended machinist trade school and completed a three-year apprenticeship in machining. Anonymous you mean CCFtl being Pre? Wow I did not know there were so many perfect people in the world. I have judged no man here, in fact I am horribly sad that Mr. Coy is going through the crap hes created for himself, his family and his community, not judging, but truly sad. Sauder read a letter Bob Haskins wrote, talked briefly about Bob not being there, then turned it to Satan being at work, and how this is a time to look at ourselves. Pastor bob always taught us to keep our eyes on Christ not man. You are an angry man, Lorenzo, and very unattractive to anyone who you are unloading upon. The things I did before coming to Christ came naturally and I had no problem doing them. I have not been to this site in quite sometime (If anyone doubts that , Im sure Michael can verify that, right Michael?) There was no word of any affair, nor his family leaving him. Seems like this must be worse than the usual cc pastor adultery because from my observation, calvary chapel covers for their guys and discredits the victims. 2. This church is a huge corporation and operates by the laws of the State of Florida and the U.S. All folks pretty much have a good sense of right and wrong whether or not they are saved by an evangelical gospel construct. As opposed to Scotts comment I appreciate your candidness:). I loved the book and I want yall to pop over, read the review and see reasons why I think you would like it too. Cant seem to wonder if Pastor Clay knew something and that is why he resigned the end of last year. Many get off drugs w/o evangelical christianity, many turn themselves around from alcohol or gambling or other vices w/o evangelical christianity. You have to turn blind eyes to the very world around you, and how ugly it is. 7. Coy sued Fort Lauderdale in 2003 after the city tried to block Calvary from placing a sign with a Christian message at a Christmas light show. Bob Coy had a long run. As well as Pastor mark left but Im sure everyone feels that is because of something Mark did. I myself am a disciple of Jesus, so read what he said not what Luther said: 15 So when you see standing in the holy place the abomination that causes desolation,[a] spoken of through the prophet Daniellet the reader understand 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. I just wish I could walk away from everything with millions in my pocket when I get caught. I do have issue with his lies, spending money on mistresses, and exposing his wife to STDs. Night all (everyone whos still up). I wish I could be more positive, but we are living in the last days when there will be a great falling away from the faith, which the Lord has prepared us to expect before He returns. As it is biblical to do so. Also, your link article suggests that we ought not make a big deal out of it cause he stepped down. It is my hope and prayer that you find healing and peace. Hugh, How would you rate the fruit of Coys doctrine? Donnyplease clean it up. A rich man has freedom to embrace the world. to clarify, are you saying that Coral Ridge Presbyterian is Jezebel leading Jesus bond-servants astray? Over two decades, Coy had built a small storefront church into Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, a 25,000-member powerhouse that packed Dolphin Stadium for Easter services while Coy hosted everyone from George W. Bush to Benjamin Netanyahu. Michael, We don;t argue we chat from different view points. Afterwards BC was the poster boy for raising money and he spoke for Crown Financial on how to get the church to give. Brother, you need a hug. He confessed to it. That is a bummer about Chet. Thats over a half million, not including his church salary, book royalties and possible speaking fees. Neo Coral Ridge does not the same doctrinal position as CCFL. What is Bob Coy doing now? Mercy should not be misused to render punishment ineffective for both. The reformed/protestant groups picked up on it, since they were catholics and knew nothing else. He wrote a very good book, I Was Wrong in 1996. Someone on the other blog I referenced wrote about the last few messages that BC preached. Coddington was charged with a misdemeanor and pleaded guilty on April 7, 2005. Other than him, hopefully we have not acted on it but we are all the same in Gods eyes. Could your husband or wife do (or be doing ) such a thing? why did your wife divorce you, were you unfaithful? Nearly 18 years on and there is still so much for the Lord to heal. Some in the CCA and CCFTL have tried to make me out to be the one caught in gross sin and any opportunity to discredit me will be taken. He shucks at the power of the blood of Jesus, he basically says no problem regarding the mark of the beast the list goes on and on. The problem here is, that you are a skeptic, period. No one is that big an idiot as you are letting on. I also understand there was supposed to be an auction for a car (donated by a dealership),,and the congregation didnt like that idea. In July, Roshad Thomas, a 41-year-old former volunteer youth pastor at Calvary Chapel Tallahassee, was arrested after he was accused of molesting at least 10 children aged 13 to 16 over several years, with victims including members of the youth group he led. Lorenzo, Ive read all your posts and you are so full of hate and . I will be curious to see how available his teachings are after this. The Peter comparison is not unreasonable. Now after commenting about 1st looks etc, I must confess that I have the hots for Stevie Nicks. Would the owner of this blog if he was a Christian be relishing and rejoicing in the fall of a Christian pastor, if he was a Christian? Antonio- its not pertinent to dwell on the sin itself and bring out every lurid detail of that sin for your viewing pleasure and for you to dwell in. See Against Heresies, Book V. He was refuting arch heretics Marcion and Valentinus who taught amillennialism. Thats worse than not knowing you are doing wrong. Coys teaching was always excellent. Andy, now you are not being honest in fact you are being purposely dishonest. That is a myth that needs to be wiped out. , Now, using your best effort, not to be like us and not being consistent, in denying the literal aspects of scripture and have to do exegetical gymnastics and use pretzel logic to try to prove their conclusions that the Bible does not mean what it says,- as you said. Better perforate your Bibles if that is so. Megachurch Pastor Bob Coy abruptly resigned Sunday afternoon, ending his 30-year leadership at one of the largest churches in the country. I could see being gracious to a guy who practiced and modeled it and was truly privatebut the fact is Coy was a big time celebrity (and probably will be again) and he had a broad congregation and broad viewershipand its probably right to let everyone know what happenedwhich as usual the blogs are standing in the accountability gap. Although he's spent years away from the altar, Coy still looks straight out of central casting for a hip Evangelical preacher. Not one of us is perfect, which is why we are to put our faith in the Lord, not in man. So here is one for you. How come pastor fidel gomez has not appeared since Bob Coy resigned? When we forget that, thats when we abuse the offices entrusted to us, men and women both. We are all fools if we judge a fellow brother.to the amount of forgiveness and grace and mercy we give, it is given to us.go light on your brother, for we have been forgiven much.. anything else is not of Christ.beware.and anyone who tries to twist it, discipline is always meant for restoration. Coy has also been dragged through legal battlefields since his resignation from the church. Why cant you have the same stop digging up peoples sin! when it comes to the homosexual community? 11 I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers. This place has a gifting for helping saints deal with things like you are going thru. But they do have these pills now. "I can't discuss it on the record," the former pastor, who managed a casino with exotic dancers in Las Vegas before committing his life to Christ, said when approached in October. Coys position on Israel is moot if his relationship with his wife is on the rocks. Thank you for posting such a powerful and healing message. When you knowingly sin then, post-saved, you are willfully being an enemy of God and we all do it b/c we are all aware of our sin and we sin anyway. I would say this before you do anything , cry out to the Lord on your own and I mean CRY OUT!! And, arent mega-churches equipped with a mega-staff..and, therefore, dont mega-pastors have access to an ample accountability network? Shouldnt these posts be cathartic? It was like everyone was in a daze. I always kinda felt sorry for his wife..now more than ever. One of the women confided in her friend, and her friend confessed to another high profile pastor in the area that had a friendship with Coy. You are stalling. Failings that are evidence of deep and chronic character flaws by their nature require a different kind of remediation. She and others back their words of welcome to you with their sincere words of prayer for you. She also said that while she had not confronted Coy yet, Coy had been "confronted by pastoral staff in Tennessee and is likely aware of the allegations at this point.". Bob Coy is a man.one of the main problems with sheep is that they start to put too much into the pastor, instead of putting it all on the Lord. Registered in England and Wales 5090917, Christian Today, International House, 24 Holborn Viaduct, London EC1A 2BN, Evangelical church redirects payments after CofE gay blessing vote, Evangelical church pursues alternative oversight after CofE same-sex blessing vote. I have visited many other churches, I am not a Coy groupie, and consider myself spirit filled. I fight another battle and if you click on my erunner name it will take you to the blog Ive run for six years because of the help of Michael who runs this blog. God bless you Ft Laud peeps who drop in. Once again MLD is right. The more I learn about the business of Christianity, the book deals, compensation, speaking fees, book reviews, book forwards, blogs about books (no offense Michael), radio and television shows, etc., the more I can empathize with people who have given up organized Christianity for house churches or other alternative church structures. It also seems to be an across the board thing crossing doctrinal and denominational lines not limited to one type of church governance. As an attendee of this church I am shocked and disappointed. Do you REALLY think that the shame would be easier to bear? The case was closed in 2016. This is the book advertised by EricL on the side bar. He got caught for intent and not the deed. Which one of these statements do you not agree with Flynn? ", "Moses was the leader appointed by God," Smith told Christianity Today in 2007. I am not honking my own horn here, either. Then Outreach Pastor Chet Lowe specifiedto the congregation that Coy "committed adultery with more than one woman" and "committed sexual immorality, habitually, through pornography.". it really bothered me what Falwell said and how he acted. The devil is a liar and trickster but God is the truth and his will shall be done. And when some were gone like that in recent years, it was probably said, they were troublemakers, or, they didnt respect the work of God, and so on and so on. Try and keep up:). He toured the nation on Evangelical radio and TV shows, hung around with Billy Graham, and published books and CDs. MacArthur is being grossly misrepresented here. It could very well be that Coy had them take his stuff down, not the other way around. Ive been married for over 3 decades to the same woman. In 2009, a fatal wrong-way crash caused by a soccer mom killed eight people. I have trust issues and the thickest walls imaginable. Does that corroborate with what youve heard? No way around the fallout. He had other associate pastors go publicly in front of the congregation after their infidelity. I also want to point out that Pastor Bob resigned, he was not fired. The church was more concerned with non-believers.. come as you are to meet Jesus than protecting their own sheep. As someone that leans amill and reformed, its all I can do to bite my tongue jeesh. He has been overtaken in trespass now it is time to win. .As well as dcf reports on her. I listened to it again and its as powerful as the first time we posted it. Or is it a place to intermingle the heathen with the saved? If you never lived together with others then you have never lead Jesus Style and problems will eventually surface when you fail to lead in this way. Looks like the night shift worked some OT last night.. PS He always said that he didnt want to turn anyone away. The reference is not to Rev 5 But to Isaiah 11, which speaks of the millennium. (1 Cor. You sound too often like a bored office worker that just likes to argue with people online. So many people will be hurt by this. The criteria for judging is that you have to be willing to be judged by the same measure! He instructs and guides us into all truth, and seals us for the day of redemption. 87 . I have been married over 45 yrs and am almost Muslim like when I come in the presence of other women. Actually God assigned me to the task since that is the ministry He called me to. I suspect you are an attendee at CCFL and you are angry, but dont shoot the messenger.. there was a guy who did so once, reluctantly. Bob is an example of what God can do with a man open to His correction. and also, after reading the article in Charisma, The governing board of the church is providing counselors and ministers who will help guide him .. uh, what about for the congregation?????? 2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD. The hearts that through him were opened to accept Jesus as their saviors will always be in Gods heart. MLD, nothing in your 708 says that the 1000 years of Revelation, are figurative. One selfish scumbag SOB he didnt care about his wife or 2 kids or the 1000 employees he had. I may have forgotten the exact amount but it was somewhere between 3,500.00 and 5,000.00. What does numbers have to do with anything? Your response is the first Ive read that seems to hold some hope that I may in fact continue reading this thread. - -, - : - , -, , . But just as a reminder, within that 2000 years is some good, and some very bad. Had not thought of that. And the evil one must be ecstatic to see this! And we now have media Pastor?? Youre boorish behavior reflects poorly on the myriad of folks who are supportive of the Coy family and the value or validity of the teaching ministry he had. Bob Coy's income source is mostly from being a . Michael, Concerning your #131 post In the aftermath of what happened to me at a CC church with a serial adulterer (most of you know of whom I speak,) I have maintained off and on contact these past ten years with 4 of the women who also told this pastor NO when he propositioned them. Thanks Michael. This thread will be closed shortly so I can have an evening to do other things. There were only a select few who could say anything about anything. I am glad to see the Board either making a deal to buy Coy out or maybe the Board had the power in the by-laws to deal with a moral failure like thisdunno, but do know that you cant really have a CC-style church that puts some much emphasis on their brand of transformation Gospel while pointing fingers at those outside the church for stuff like gay marriage etcand then have a guy in that CC pulpit that is addicted to p0rn and having relations with multiple women who are not his wife. he separates the sheep and the goats 3.) Humiliation breeds humility. For the people at CC Fort Lauderdale, and the family of Bob Coy we should grieve and pray for the pain and disappointment, and even betrayal they must feel. We were very involved. And I can name an endless list of Calvinists who have won tens of thousands to Christ. If you want to play silly games it will not last long. Were prayers publicly offered for Bobs wife and children and the church Bob has hurt so badly or has the church now expunged the record and just moving forward. So we have to have a discussion on the subject: What exactly is church? Anyone can fall at anytime ! Sure would make the shame easier to bear. He made it public and we are no one to judge. I suspect that the laughs made him realize it worked..got more people in and maybe it became like a treadmill that you can never get off of. Bob Coy is fortunate because his sin was found out. My prayers are for them that they dont fall away, that they dont dismiss this and purely look the other way. If I am not blindly loyal to my megachurch Pastor I am considered rebellious. I bet now that this is being covered by the big media outlets that more will come out. Gary #633. Andy, I made a couple of comments to Mary! This church has operated as BC was the end all be all.
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